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October 16, 2009

Eveline: the problems of adolescence

"The undiscovered country from which no traveller returns" says Hamlet.

 

What does Eveline have in common with Hamlet's argumentation?

A lot I would say...

 

Compare Eveline and Hamlet's lines

 

The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action


39 Comments (Last by GRabino)

 

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On November 13, 2009 GRabino said:
In my opinion Eveline and Hamlet are linked by the same matter. They are the symbol of the paralysis in front of unknown. As a consequence they are unable to make a decision.
But the two characters have different behaviour to cope with the matter.
Eveline has got a passive attitude. She does not understand what happened to her, does not try to find a solution. She only thinks about memories.
Hamlet makes question about his feelings, his mental status. He has got a active attitude because he analyzes the problem.
Eveline hasn't got a point of view and she is conditioned by the other, she behaves like an adolescence who wants to do new experiences, find answer to his question. Hamlet knows his felling and explains his point of view.
On November 8, 2009 CSguassero said:
In my opinion the characters of Eveline and Hamlet are linked because they both symbolize the same human's fear. They are scared from what they don’t know so this feeling is the reason why they prefear, expecially Eveline, the pains they have than fly to others that they don’t know. This two characters are similar, but I think that ther’s also an important difference. Hamlet describes a kind of feeling, a behaviour that people have in front of the unknoun, he makes a meditation about it and he understands that it isn’t resoluctive. He uses his mind and reason to do an argument and to understand the reason why this behaviour is dangerous. Instead Eveline doesn’t understand, and doesn’t try to understand, that this behaviour is opposite to the instinct of an indipendent person that wants to pursue a better lifestyle. As a matter of fact she hasn’t got a strong and critical point of view so her thoughts and her mind are unstable and conditionable. This is a peculiar aspect of adolecence. An adolecent hasn’t got a lot of experience and he wants to find answers, not questions and incertituds. Eveline is an adolecent and Hamlet speaks about her feelings.
On November 8, 2009 CSguassero said:
On November 8, 2009 GMuller said:
Eveline isn't able to do a decision but she must make a decision.
She must decide if she wants to leave Dublin with her boyfriend or to stay in Dublin with her father.
She decides to leave Dublin but when she is going to leave, she is unable to do anything and she doesn't leave Dublin.
Hamlet shows the same situation, when somebody wants to do something (instinctive feeling) but thinks too much, then he is unable to act.
On October 29, 2009 GCarabellese said:
Reading Helmet’s argumentations I immediately thinking about Eveline’s situation. In fact in Helmet’s monologue comes out the difficult that people have to brave an unknown situation. People prefer to live their situation, because they already know the difficulties and the consequences ,rather to brave something new.
Eveline involves at the same way : when she has the possibility to change her difficult life with Frank , she feels paralysed. She doesn’t act, letting drop the possibility to have a new better life. She would like to leave her home but she is scared by the future , like Helmet who doesn’t know if he will stay alive or dead because the death is “The undiscover'd country from whose bourn. No traveller returns..”
On October 22, 2009 AFDonat said:
In my opinion the characters of Eveline and Hamlet are linked because they both symbolize the same human fear. In the two stories the protagonists didn't know what they have to do, because they are afraid of consequence so they are both paralyzed.
On October 22, 2009 AFDonat said:
In my opinion the characters of Eveline and Hamlet are linked because they both symbolize the same human's fear. In the two stories the protagonists din't know what they have to do, because they are afraid of consequence so they are bith paralyzed.
On October 22, 2009 GDaniotti said:
In my opinion the thing Evline and Amlet have in common is that both are paralysed in their will but for different reasons. Eveline because she still feel connected to the promise made to her mother and Amlet because he is scared from what he doesn't know, so he prefers "bear those ills we have" instead of exploring new way.
On October 21, 2009 SDelSal said:
When I had read Hamlet’s monologue, I associate it with Eveline’s paralysis: both are not able to take decisions and change their situation. On one side Hamlet doesn’t know if he will stay alive or die because he is scared of the future, of what would to happen when he will be dead; on the other side Eveline would like to leave her home with her fellow but when she starts thinking about her mother’s promise, her family, her reputation, she doesn’t act.
“And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action”
In my opinion it is the most important sentence of this part of Hamlet’s monologue that connects Eveline’s situation to him.
If you think too much about something and you don’t act following your instinct, you’ll NEVER do that thing because all negative feelings occur to your mind.
On October 21, 2009 CDean said:
In my opinion Eveline and Hamlet's argumentation have something in common. While I read Hamlet's lines I immediately associated them with Eveline' situation. As the matter of fact both of them prefer to live situations that they know, because they already know the difficulties of those situations, instead of trying to change their lifes.
Eveline would like to leave her home with Frank but when she starts to think (about her promise to her mother, about her family, about her reputation,...) she feels paralysed: she doesn't act.
Hamlet shows the same situation: when a person wants to do something (instinctive feeling) but thinks too much, then she is unable to act. We become cowards because of our coscience.
At the end I think that they are unable to act because they are afraid of the future and of unknown situations.
On October 21, 2009 FZanaboni said:
In my point of view, Eveline and Hamlet's argumentation are linked because both protagonists have the same situation...
In fact, they are unable to act and to take decisions, so, they are paralyzed. Eveline and Hamlet are unable to change their unhappy situation, because, in my opinion, they are afraid.
On October 21, 2009 CTomasello said:
I think that Eveline's argumentation and Hamlet's argumentation are linked: they are both paralyzed!
In fact they are unable to act, and unable to take a decision for their life!
On October 21, 2009 GCorso said:
Eveline has in common with Hamlet's argumentation the way of behaving with passiveness.Eveline’s life is conditioned by a promise, when she has the opportunity to leave the family and start a family of her own she ran away from the only person that truly love her , she is a coward , she prefers to stay in a difficult situation with her father instead to discover a new life.
Hamlet tells: “And thus the native hue of resolution Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought.”
Eveline infact thinks how her new life might be like, Eveline knows that it will be better than the life she is currently living in, but she only thinks !! she doesn’t act!
Her thoughts are “ weak” and they are only intention but when she thinks about the probably consequences of her intention she turns back and doesn’t act, she is afraid of a new life that she doesn’t know and as Hamlet says: " and lose tha neam of action".



On October 21, 2009 LFioretti said:
Eveline has in common with Hamlet the fear of acting, taking decisions and changing her situation. They prefer stay in the reality rather going to the unknown future in an other situation that they are not able to solve. So, for them, it is better to suffer now knowing the cause of suffering.
On October 21, 2009 MStefanich said:
In my point of view Hamlet's argumentation is linked to Eveline's story because both the protagonist are paralyzed and so unable to act.... . They are both too coward to make a decision and moreover they are afraid of doing new experiences so they do not move.
On October 21, 2009 GBBredeon said:
Eveline's Argumentations and Hamlet's Argumentations were the same, because they desired to do something but They hadn’t the will power to do it. As meter of facts Eveline desired to escape of her house with Frank and went to Buenos Ayres, but She had not the will power to do it. In my opinion Eveline and Hamlet had not the will power to do something because they were both afraid of what they didn’t know, and finally they didn’t act.
On October 21, 2009 GPaparot said:
Eveline and Hamlet's argumentation are linked beacuse both of them want to change their sintuation and they are trying to find the courage!
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On October 21, 2009 NZentilin said:
In my opinion, Hamlet's argumentation is linked to Eveline's story... Both the characters would like changing their state/situation.. When they are going to do something, they decided not to do it. Eveline wanted to go to Buenos Ayres, but at the end she didn't go! They were both afraid of what they didn't know: so they decided not to do it!!!
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