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STonon – T.S.Eliot.What the Thunder Said.Exercises pg 559
by STonon - (2012-04-16)
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COMPREHENSION:

 

1.The theme of the Journey of Christ’s disciples to Emmaus after the Resurrection is refered by:

 Vv10-24 This section evokes the sufferance of Christ journey, that the two disciples follow according to the Luca’s Gospel (Lc.24,13-35).

Vv.39-45 This section recalls the doubt of disciples when they saw Jesus and they did not recognize him.

 

The theme of the approach to the Chapel Perilous in the Holy Graal Legend:

Vv39-45 This section remember also the two pilgrims searching the Holy Graal that saw(imagined) a third person with them;

Vv59-62 The “empty chapel” suggests the moment when the two knights came to the Chapel and they did not find anything there.

 

The theme of the present decay of Eastern Europe:

Vv53The “falling towers” are the cities in the following lines: these cities are the bearers of Eastern values, so if they falling, also values are crumbling.

Vv72-104 in all the final dialogue there are reference to the present decay of Eastern values such as the broken seals by the lean solicitor(v79)

 

2.written on the book

 Most frequent images: rock, no water,silence

 

INTERPRETATION:

 

<!--[if !supportLists]-->1.       <!--[endif]-->“DA” is what the thunder said. According to Eliot’s notes there are three interpretations:

<!--[if !supportLists]-->-          <!--[endif]-->Datta: to give alms

<!--[if !supportLists]-->-          <!--[endif]-->Daydhvam: to have compassion

<!--[if !supportLists]-->-          <!--[endif]-->Damyata: to practice self control

 

<!--[if !supportLists]-->2.       <!--[endif]-->Fragments can be the fragments of reality, conveying Eliot’s vision of life which is fragmentary; but they can also be the quotations composing the Waste Land, the interweaved thread of intertextual quotation beyond the text.

 

<!--[if !supportLists]-->3.       <!--[endif]-->The final message of the Waste Land is that Western culture has come at sunset, but there is a hope for rebirth. The use of Sanskrit suggests the Eastern cyclical view of History, so after the end there is a new beginning. Besides the repetition of “Shantih”, that means absolute peace like Nirvana, conveys the need of the peace in order to realize Eliot’s concept of unity.

 

<!--[if !supportLists]-->4.       <!--[endif]-->Other Eliot’s concepts in the text are:

<!--[if !supportLists]-->-          <!--[endif]-->The suffering nature of life: no water but rock,sweat

<!--[if !supportLists]-->-          <!--[endif]-->The need of unity of human being: shanith, shall I […] in order?(v96)

<!--[if !supportLists]-->-          <!--[endif]-->Dead means rebirth: quotation to Resurrection

 

<!--[if !supportLists]-->5.       <!--[endif]-->Eliot’s poetry is quite complex and I need lot of notes in order to completely understand all his quotation. Despite his use of language and his ability to convey emotion is unique, even if I probably understand only a small parts of his message. I like that he does not care if only few people can actually understand his poetry. Besides I like his ability to make me feel complete ignorant.

 

<!--[if !supportLists]-->6.       <!--[endif]--> Eliot’s poetry obscurity is caused by the large presence of quotations we often do not recognize, juxtaposition of scenes without chronological development, and last but not least the apparent lack of a logical thread, so it is difficult to follow.